An Indian woman in California is claiming that she was racially profiled after police arrived at her house and questioned her over a recent inquiry about buying ammunition at a Dick’s Sporting Goods store.

According to Sim Sangha, two officers visited her in her East Bay home last Friday and asked her about her trip to the store. She later learned that one of the employees at Dick’s called officers after her visit and said that she was acting suspiciously. Officers later apologized for the visit and said that the reaction may have been related to the recent shooting in San Bernardino, in which a couple with suspected ties to terrorism killed 14 people.

Sangha, a firearms instructor and aspiring police officer, said she was deeply upset by the incident.

“After dozens of questions and then after countless apologies from both officers, I was filled with a mixture of emotions. Anger, sadness, I felt violated, and I kept asking myself ‘what did I do wrong?’ Would this have happened if I didn’t look the way I do?” she wrote on Facebook.

Sangha later told NBC Bay Area that she suspects the clerks may have singled her out.

“I don’t know if it’s [because of] my skin color or that I’m Indian,” she said. “I’m not a Muslim, but even if I were, that’s no reason to call police to my home, instantly.”

Sangha had gone to the store last week to ask about purchasing .223 ammunition for her AR-15 rifle. She recalled that her encounter with the employees had been a pleasant one and she suspected nothing out of the ordinary.

“I went to the firearms section of the store and was greeted by three store clerks,” she wrote online. “I inquired about .223 ammunition prices/brands and was told that there was a deal on bulk ammunition. I asked if there was a limit on how much I could buy as there are sometimes limitations depending on availability. Because I am a firearms instructor, it’s always convenient to have ammunition readily available at home if my friends/family wants [sic] to go to the shooting range. One of the clerks told me there were no limitations.”

After asking about the ammunition, Sangha purchased an elevation fitness mask with her credit card and left. Sangha said that her friends have bought ammo in bulk at that store without incident. However, two days after going to Dick’s, Sangha said officers knocked on her door.

“The officers explained that employees at Dick’s Sporting Goods had contacted the police department and reported me as a ‘suspicious’ customer because I wanted to purchase ammunition,” Sangha stated. “He also told me that this was a reaction to the San Bernardino incident. I explained why I was inquiring about ammunition and provided the officers with all qualifications and credentials as a firearms instructor including US Department of Justice Firearms Safety Instructor Certification and the National Rifle Association Certified Firearms Instructor card.

“I also explained that my passion for shooting came from being involved in law enforcement, starting as a Union City Police Explorer when I was 14 years old, and through the present as I am now in the hiring process for both the Los Angeles Police Department and the Fremont Police Department.”

The Fremont Police Department told local media that it was the duty of its officers to investigate calls about suspicious activity. Police spokespeople stated that the department is currently on heightened alert due to the shooting in San Bernardino, but do not have a defined policy in place to increase vigilance against possible acts of terrorism. Police spokespeople also added that the officers apologized to Sangha before leaving.

You can watch a brief interview with Sangha below:

Note: This article has been edited to indicate that Sangha purchased an item at the Dick’s store.

Image screenshot of video on nbcbayarea.com

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57 thoughts on “Indian Woman Questioned for Ammo Inquiry, Claims Racial Profiling

  1. Utterly ridiculous, if the store clerks were suspicious, they could have found out this girl’s unique status as a firearms instructor in a harmless conversation, many of these instructors are not the least bit shy about showing their credentials. I don’t believe I would be shopping at Dick’s Sporting Goods again.

    1. People are scared and afraid. We are constantly told, “see something, say something.” The police apologized. Be thankful they are being vigilant and stop with “I’m insulted crap.” You can’t have it both ways.

      1. “The police apologized”, which is ridiculous. It is not good enough. You are acting as if she should be alright with being racially profiled and proud to be a victim of prejudicial treatment. It is not “insulted crap”, when someone is treated unfairly. It is having compassion that someone was a victim of discrimination and understanding it is not acceptable. The police apologizing does not make it okay. You can not tell anyone how to feel when they feel they are treated unfairly. There is no way to justify the actions of the employees of the store or police. Go Figure!

    2. Your ridiculous, no one wants to judge anybody, bit the harsh reality is our nation is falling apart with pc crap. To use her own words, “I don’t know if it’s [because of] my skin color or that I’m Indian,” she said. “I’m not a Muslim”, one can see that even she recognizes she could be mistaken for one with a Muslim background. Furthermore, to use her own words again, “I’m not a Muslim, but even if I were, that’s no reason to call police to my home, instantly.” sorry, but I bet the family’s of 14 who were recently murdered in cold blood would disagree considering employees thought they saw suspicious activity but failed to report it. In addition, who are you to judge the employee s at dicks. You don’t see where the employees would have reason to react???; let me break it down for u: 1 she was buying the caliber for the “dreaded ar-15” per the media, being the lib I’m sure u are your response, my guess is u had no idea that .223, and more so 556, was the caliber for an ar-15, as the only thing u know about an ar most likely is what the media tells u and your beloved president. Tell me, do u get a “chill up your leg” when Obama screams bs, u and Chris Matthews are probably best buds, that’s sweet. 2: not only was she buying ammo for the dreaded “assault rifle”, she asked if their a limit on how much she can buy. Now, being an avid shooteri understand the question, as some stores limit sales when quantities are low; however, it could easily be interpreted as a red flag. 3: by her own right she could be mistaken for Muslim, and of middle eastern decend, so with that u don’t get why they may see some flags with everything going on. 4: a female was the mastermind of the San Bernardino incident, the statical fact is woman shoot less than men. So it would be less likely, not impossible by anyneans, but unlikely she was buying ar 15 ammo for her class from the employees stand point. She was so hurt she now needs to sue dicks, BC we all know where this is really going. I am so sick of this crap. If your military, past or present, I apologise for seeming harsh, if your not, which I suspect u aren’t, then no apology necessary. In short, wish all u libs would wake up, we r being attacked in our home land and allowing it to happen. I know grammatically this sucks, did it on my phone. And to the dicks employees, good for u!!!! U don’t need, nor should u want his business.

      1. FYI, My first ‘AR-15’ was marked XM16E1, I had an M14 issued to me before that POS. While I am now retired, I am ex-military, a Vietnam combat veteran, an ex-cop, an ex-appellate court judge, and a competition shooter since high school, At the age of 69 I still ‘carry’ every day and fire thousands of rounds a year, both rimfire and centerfire. I have been an NRA Life member since 1978. As a life long gun shop customer, I assure you, all your “red flags” could have been dealt with by the gun shop employees in a low key conversation, like we have all had with gun store employees while shopping at our local gun shop.

      2. I stand corrected, and appreciate your services. With that being said, I agree with what dicks employees did, as if they had done nothing and another San Bernardino incident would have occurred when suspicious activity was noticed, were would ask be saying they should have reported it. It is a fine line, but we need to cross it unfortunately at this point. Despite disagreeing on rather or not the dicks employees did the right things, I do appreciate your services

      3. Ive always thought Dicks was sub par a.dont shop there for anything. .Nothing to do with employees,just dont like the store,inventory or prices. That .said…it shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody that folks are interested in bulk ammo or rifles considering we’re basically under attack from outside and within. She wasnt inquiring about bulk fertilizer. However we do have to stick to “see something say something”. They just jumped the gun.

      1. Now why did you say that about Sun City. How do you know what and where and why this man shops anywhere? YOU sir sound a lot like an employee of DICKHEADS store?

      2. Thanks watchdogman. There is a Dick’s S.G. store in the mall near where I live, but I do not patronize the business because of their gun policies, high prices and the attitudes of some employees. My choice !!!

      3. Hmm… sounds like I was right, eh? Sun City Dude doesn’t shop there anyway, so his comment really doesn’t affect Dicks, now does it? And no, I don’t work at DS. I have shopped there, and purchased products ranging from guns to childrens shoes.

        Why did you choose to be offended “for” him? You do realize that being offended is a choice we make and that it isn’t a condition thrust upon us, right?

        Oh, and I’ve never been mistreated at DS. I guess if you count them checking out my identification thoroughly when purchasing firearms as being mistreated then I could fall into that category, but it doesn’t hurt my feelings to have employees do their job and keep everyone safe.

        Put yourselves in the shoes of the employees, who by the way, are probably minimum wage earners. In trouble if they say anything, in trouble if they don’t say anything. Which would you prefer? That they say something and be wrong, or that they not say something and be wrong? Which one has less death involved?

  2. So, I guess ALL of the WHITE men and women that purchase 1,000 or more rounds that are later contacted by the BATFE are being “racially profiled”. What the hell is her beef. IMHO, she should be grateful that a store clerk is concerned enough about his/her fellow citizens to have law enforcement make and inquiry. Now had LE gone in “raid” mentality and busted down her door, that’s a different story. But a knock on the door and a few questions later…stop whining. If you are that thin skinned, you may want to reconsider your potential career path.

      1. It is not the “clerks” per se. Ammo stores are supposed to “alert” the BATFE any time an individual purchases a “large quantity” of ammunition. The threshold has been set at 1,000 rounds. Have you ever given any consideration why a lot of ammunition manufacturers are now boxing their products in 440 or 880 round increments? Although I have not confirmed their reasoning, but it seams reasonable they are attempting to help private citizens from facing federal “scrutiny”.

      2. I order ammo online from Cabelas and have it shipped to store. I ask them to hold it for 3 to 4 weeks and then I drive the 70 miles one way to pick up 3,4,5, or maybe 6 boxes of ammo to make only one trip to get all the boxes. One trip this past summer the total was 3500 rounds. Was I reported to BATFE? That may be the reason my cell phone conversations have a clicking noise in the background most of the time.

      3. Since you’ve already made the assumption they don’t, you probably wouldn’t believe the facts anyway. If I see something suspicious, I’m going to report it no matter your skin color or whether it “offends” you or not.

      4. Same thing I already posted to the other guy, BC your right, Caucasian folks probably don’t get the same scrutiny, but they don’t fly planes in buildings either. Here’s the response I already sent to one person:

        Your ridiculous, no one wants to judge anybody, bit the harsh reality is our nation is falling apart with pc crap. To use her own words, “I don’t know if it’s [because of] my skin color or that I’m Indian,” she said. “I’m not a Muslim”, one can see that even she recognizes she could be mistaken for one with a Muslim background. Furthermore, to use her own words again, “I’m not a Muslim, but even if I were, that’s no reason to call police to my home, instantly.” sorry, but I bet the family’s of 14 who were recently murdered in cold blood would disagree considering employees thought they saw suspicious activity but failed to report it. In addition, who are you to judge the employee s at dicks. You don’t see where the employees would have reason to react???; let me break it down for u: 1 she was buying the caliber for the “dreaded ar-15” per the media, being the lib I’m sure u are your response, my guess is u had no idea that .223, and more so 556, was the caliber for an ar-15, as the only thing u know about an ar most likely is what the media tells u and your beloved president. Tell me, do u get a “chill up your leg” when Obama screams bs, u and Chris Matthews are probably best buds, that’s sweet. 2: not only was she buying ammo for the dreaded “assault rifle”, she asked if their a limit on how much she can buy. Now, being an avid shooteri understand the question, as some stores limit sales when quantities are low; however, it could easily be interpreted as a red flag. 3: by her own right she could be mistaken for Muslim, and of middle eastern decend, so with that u don’t get why they may see some flags with everything going on. 4: a female was the mastermind of the San Bernardino incident, the statical fact is woman shoot less than men. So it would be less likely, not impossible by anyneans, but unlikely she was buying ar 15 ammo for her class from the employees stand point. She was so hurt she now needs to sue dicks, BC we all know where this is really going. I am so sick of this crap. If your military, past or present, I apologise for seeming harsh, if your not, which I suspect u aren’t, then no apology necessary. In short, wish all u libs would wake up, we r being attacked in our home land and allowing it to happen. I know grammatically this sucks, did it on my phone. And to the dicks employees, good for u!!!! U don’t need, nor should u want his business.

      5. You are wrong in so many ways. In the past few years white people have flown planes into building in suicide missions. I bet white customers do not get the same scrutiny as someone of other races. Another issues is most of the mass shootings that have occurred in this country as recent has been white males. Yet, the people at this store decided to focus on someone of another race as if that is the only race that commit mass shootings.

        No one can be mistaken for muslim considering muslim is not a look but a religion. Muslims come from all walks of life and come in all colors just like Christians do. What is looking middle-eatern? If someone is middle-eastern looking then, what is looking American or western? The problem is that stereotypes is the reason for these ignorant assumptions. The lady was trying to make sense of why someone would call the police for her innocently asking about ammo at a ammo store. She was not trying to give power to racial stereotypes, which are useless considering mass shooting that have recently occurred. Your post is bias and sound like you are trying to defend people racial profiling people and blaming victims of prejudicial treatment. Go Figure!

  3. First of all, let me say that she is a very beautiful lady, but how many beautiful ladies are NRA rated shooting instructors? I would guess that there are less of them than there are lady terrorists, like the one in San Bernardino. The neighbor said she didn’t want to call, because she didn’t want to be accused of profiling. A lot of people would be alive if she had done what Dicks employee did. Sorry, but the questions she asked would have raised a flag with me, no matter the color of her skin. Get over yourself. This is the kind of thing that stops the good people trying to protect others from doing so.

    1. I told a guy earlier that his post was the dumbest post I have seen, but I think I will have to go back and edit his post. Your post is the dumbest I have seen on this post. First, the people at the store knew nothing of her certifications. The only thing that could have influenced their actions were her race and name hence racial profiling. Secondly, the questions she asked were not out of the norm for what someone would ask at any shooting supply store. Stores do set limits on ammo you can buy and people do prefer certain brand of ammo over other brands based on a number of factors. Thirdly, you only make yourself look bad trying to justify the employees racially profiling this lady and the prejudicial treatment of this lady. This the type of thing that continues to reaffirm that racism is alive and well in this country. Your post does nothing to dispel the notion of post racial America when your post was clearly racial/racist. Go Figure!

  4. You would think that this woman, or any thinking person, with this sort of firearms safety training certification & desire to become a police officer would welcome the idea of this type of scrutiny. But no, she only thinks of the potential law suit she may now have.

    1. Your post is one of the dumbest I have seen on this post. You honestly want her to be thankful for being racially profiled and a victim of prejudicial treatment. What’s next, she should be thankful for being raped. At least a man find her attractive. Do you honestly read what you post or dumb enough to think it is acceptable the way she was treated. She has every right to be upset that someone called cops on her for no reason, but simply asking a question about ammo at a ammo store. You are full of_________________. (Fill in the blank). Go Figure!

  5. As a future employer, do I want this individual working for me? I’d have to think long and hard about that and decide if I was hiring someone that was likely to find fault and sue me if she didn’t like how things went at work that day. Wants to be in law enforcement…? Really?

    Did those DS employees profile her? Who knows. They very well could have. Did they want to be the San Bernardino neighbor that thought he should have said something but feared trouble from being called a racial profiler? Looks like they wanted to avoid that concern and spoke up. JUST like the public is counseled to do.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. There is no winning here. There is only “what level of butt-hurt” will be the greatest, and from which crowd.

    1. Your entire post was clearly bias and sounded like bigotry. You are questioning whether to hire someone because they do not like being racially profiled and treated like a terrorist. Especially, considering people of other races shop with the privilege of not being profiled as a terrorist. She has every right to find fault at being discriminated against by employees of a store. Go Figure!

      “Did those DS employees profile her?” Yes, it is obvious they did racially profile her based off her looks. What else would make them suspicious besides her looks. You are a racist denyer and sad individual.

      1. Name calling. It’s what individuals do when they feel their side of an argument/debate can’t hold its own weight.

        You see what you want to see. You want to find hate and bigotry, and so that’s what you find. You don’t know me well enough to label me. You address what you interpreted as racism, and gloss over the rest of my statement. Typical deflection from someone focused on hate themselves, rather than the issue at hand.

      2. Name calling! I did not once call you a name. I judged your post for what I see as a bias and bigoted statement. The young lady in the post was racially profiled and pre-judged by the employees because of her race. No other factor influenced them more than her race. I read your post and find a number of instances of you deflecting from the employee poor actions. There is no way to excuse some one being treated as a terrorist based on unwarranted labeling. You excused this lady entire encounter as if she should not be offended as being treated in such a way. You have a bigger problem than me calling you out on your post.

      3. You: “I did not once call you a name.”
        You: “You are a racist denyer and sad individual.”

        You: “You excused this lady entire encounter as if she should not be offended as being treated in such a way.”
        Me: “Did those DS employees profile her? Who knows. They very well could
        have. Did they want to be the San Bernardino neighbor that thought he
        should have said something but feared trouble from being called a racial
        profiler? Looks like they wanted to avoid that concern and spoke up.
        JUST like the public is counseled to do.”

        You’re reading what you want, in to it. I stated quite clearly that they very well could have profiled her. I also gave reasons as to “why” they may have done so. In light of the recent shooting in their state, I can see erring on the side of caution. But instead, we get this:

        Me: “Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. There is no winning here. There
        is only “what level of butt-hurt” will be the greatest, and from which
        crowd.”

        Don’t be mad because what I’ve said is true. It’s easier to realize that being offended isn’t a condition thrust upon us, but a choice that we make. And it’s easier to not be offended for someone else than our own selves. You are looking to be offended and so you are finding whatever slight it is you are looking for in what I’ve said. You’d be incorrect, but… I understand it, nonetheless.

      4. I stand by my post. You are denying that racism played a factor in this situation and I think you are sad for doing it.

        You: “I also gave reasons as to “why” (she might be profiled) they may have done so”.

        You are using a recent event as a way to justify a unfounded conclusion. No reason can be given to justify someone being racially profiled and unfarily treated by the police. Especially, since prior to the San Bernardino shooting there were a number of murders that occurred by Nazi hate groups. Did the employees call the police on white males that came into the store? No, they did not call the police.

        You: “Don’t be mad because what I’ve said is true”.
        Nothing you said was true, but simply your opinion. You are treating your opinion as though it is fact. When in fact the only thing is certain is that she was treated the way she was because of her outward appearance.

        You: “It’s easier to realize that being offended isn’t a condition thrust upon us, but a choice that we make”.
        Such as being racially profiled at a shooting supply store as a terrorist or being interrogated by police for being a suspected terrorist. Once again you are excusing the bad behavior of other people and blaming the victim. I guess being targeted and treated as a radical terrorist is no reason to be mad at being treated that way. Good luck with that argument!

      5. Where do I deny racism, other than in your own mind? Nowhere do I deny that as a possibility. Nowhere.

        Of course I am using a recent event. Isn’t that what we are talking about? A recent event involving this woman? You deflecting and saying some “Nazi hate groups” did something has no bearing on this event. For one, you have no idea if anyone reported their behavior. You’re assuming that but stating it as if it were fact.

        Nothing I said was true? Again, you continue to read what you want to find: hate and racism.

        She wants to be a police officer. She’s upset at the police for doing their job. You can’t see the irony here? She’s upset at citizens for calling the police. If she becomes a police officer will she deny doing her duty to investigate because it might hurt the suspects feelings? More irony.

        Would I be upset if it had happened to me. Without a doubt. Would I have made it a national news item, contacting news outlets to champion my hurt feelings? Nope.

        And why not?
        Because of people like the guy who said nothing that could have stopped the San Bernadino incident.
        Because the police were doing their job – no one was hurt by them, they even apologized after gaining all the information. So my butt-hurt feelings would be the only thing that would have been assuaged.
        Because I know it would have only led to more people being offended for me, gaining anger and hate where none needed to grow. Just like you’re doing now…

        Good luck indeed.

      6. I stated you deny race when you continue to say “profiled” instead of stating race as a factor. Profiling could be a number of factors, but I am focusing on this incident and how race played a factor.

        I referred to recent events that occurred shortly before the San Bernadino shooting that involved hate groups. Prior to this mass shooting there were a number of murders linked to hate groups in the same exact city. I question whether the employees at the store started calling the cops on white males that shopped at the store, since they were similar to suspects in recent murders, which I highly doubt.

        She is not upset at the police for doing her job. She is upset that she is being treated as a terror suspect when she did nothing to warrant their actions. Apologizing does nothing to change what happened to her. It is similar to someone kicking you in the face and apologizing after it. It does nothing to lessen your pain. Asking about ammunition at a ammo store is not warrant to raise the alarm. That is something that happens many times throughout the day at that store. The only thing that could influence them were here race hence racial profiling. Should she have gone to the media? Yes, she should let everyone know that people are being treated unfairly at a store.

        No one was at a risk for being hurt. She was not a threat to anyone. The employees acted out of ignorance more than actual evidence of a threat.

      7. “Profiled” vs saying racism. You’re splitting hairs, but ok… It would still appear to me that you are looking for some sort of “hate” in my comments when there is none.

        And it isn’t that she walked into the store and asked for a box of ammo. “I asked if there was a limit on how much I could buy…”

        You want minimum wage earners to know who might be a terrorist and who might not be. It’s unreasonable. We penalize them because they spoke up. And we would penalize them if this woman had done something and they hadn’t spoken up. Those racist pigs! How dare Dick Sporting Goods employee people like this! Why didn’t they know someone in their employee could possibly wonder about any other person on the face of the earth and what their motives might be!?!

        Sounds stupid, right? That’s because it is.

      8. I was focusing the topic on racism and prejudice, which contributed to the way she was treated by the employees and police. I am not looking to hate anyone.

        Asking about ammo limits is not out of the ordinary especially since most stores have limited the amount of ammo to be purchased by customers due to high demand. Most stores have a limit because a lot of customers want ammo and they want to make sure everyone is able to get ammo.

        No one is blaming anyone but the people responsible for terror attacks. I have yet to hear gun manufacturers or even ammo manufacturer blamed because someone killed as a result of their product. The employees suspicion was unwarranted and nothing occurred out of the ordinary to warrant a call to police. No evidence besides her race could have even remotely motivated them to alert the police. She was not the first nor the last person to ask about ammo limits.

        I do not wonder if any person who appear to be middle eastern is a terrorist. If someone does then the problem is with the person with the bias and not the person.

      9. “No one is blaming anyone but the people responsible for terror attacks.”
        Except everyone here, including yourself, who jumped on the bandwagon to point fingers at the Dicks Sporting Goods employees.

        “The employees suspicion was unwarranted and nothing occurred out of the ordinary to warrant a call to police.”

        Apparently those employees believed it “was” warranted. Again, damned if they do, damned if they don’t. There is “no way” to appease everyone. There just isn’t. Error on the side of caution, or hope for the best. Right? Your “belief” that there was nothing to warrant the employees suspicion is just that, a belief. You weren’t there. All you can do is guess. All you can do is pick a side and give it your best guess.

        “I have yet to hear gun manufacturers or even ammo manufacturer blamed because someone killed as a result of their product.”
        Deflection. You’re moving off on a tangent. A slippery sloped one at that:
        Car manufacturers must be to blame for drunk drivers?
        Fork manufacturers must be to blame for obese people?
        Pencil manufacturers are clearly to blame for misspelled words?
        Hammer and bat manufacturers are to blame for bludgeoning deaths?

        It’s unfortunate that she was possibly profiled. Yet in that same breath – profiling works. Is it 100% accurate. Of course not. Will some people be offended by the results of profiling? Of course they will, because obviously there are good people that get caught up in it needlessly. Has profiling saved lives, stopped crimes and aiding in capturing criminals? Absolutely.

        Blown out of proportion by the negative nightly news. I would have been offended that the cops showed up at my house. I then would have stopped myself (as I often do), and told myself that being offended isn’t a condition inflicted upon me, but a choice I make. I would have accepted the officers’ apology, thanked them for their time, and let – it – go. The end. No national news. No national butt-hurt. The end.

  6. I think their name says it all . The last time I shopped there was over four years ago. The clerk refused to show me a pistol with the comment it was too much gun for an “old man ”

  7. Just wait until the terrorism starts. Everybody thats looks darker/ questionable will be targets of opportunity. The sad part is that ratting on others is dejavu of nazism. Things are gonna get baaaad in cities, with little likelyhood of it ever getting better. Look at Europe.

  8. I never purchase anything from Dick’s! Remember the “Sandy Hook” incident and the reaction Dick’s had by cancelling orders already in progress to send to Dealers, refusal to sell AR any longer…Their liberal reaction pissed me off and I will NEVER enter one of their liberal joins again!

  9. So write a story, leaving the most glaring question, unasked or answered. How did the store know name, address, etc. All of this was a store visit and inquiry with no mention of a purchase. smh at continued half-***ed job of what passes for journalism. But certainly perpetuates a mass hysteria and stereotyping syndrome. I suppor neither side, one way or the other, I don’t have enough information to justify either actions … just saying, too many questions in this story to make any judgements.

    1. Hi Denice,

      She did end up buying an item with her credit card before leaving. I’ve edited the text to indicate this. It should have been included in the text prior, but due to an error on our part we accidentally left it out.

      Thanks for reading,

      Matt

  10. In contrast with a private gun shop/shooting range recently visited. I went in wanting to hands on Sig Sauer’s. See if it was a fit. The male clerk, asked “for home protection or personal, to carry?” I did respond and then he proceeded to tell me “here is the most popular gun for/with women… the Glock.” At that point, I was done. He could not have paid me to take one of his guns. He did encourage me to sign up for, and pay them $ and come in on another day to participate in their “Ladies Night” at which I could try out multiple models. He did not ask about my experience with guns, my skill level, nothing. I pushed to see the Sig’s because I didnt want it to be a total wasted trip. But this is definitely a sales person thing perhaps somewhat of a man thing. I know you do not LISTEN to a customers request and immediately ignore it and proceed to tell them what they really want because you know best, are an expert, are the salesman…. idiots all. Car dealers pull it with me (I worked at a car dealership in my youth) Kitchen designer told me what size/type/style range I wanted in my new kitchen. In all circumstances, I walk and take my business elsewhere. Someone mentioned a clerk asking the right questions could have avoided. Perhaps but that requires a sensible mature sales staff. They are far and few between.

  11. When asked about the incident, Dick’s Sporting Goods employees simply responded, “We have rigid standards that we try to keep up, we’re Dicks.”

  12. All the bickering among the previous commentors aside, this is simply a sign of the times. One of the things terrorists do is to sow uncertainty and distrust among the targeted population. That’s exactly what is happening all over the US and Europe. Having said that, there is a reason to be vigilant and take action if people are concerned . . . but there is also no reason for hysteria.

    In the spirit of providing credentials, I have worked in USG contracted private sector counter terrorism OCONUS and CONUS since 2004, and before that was a combat arms officer and worked in law enforcement, so I have a little bit of experience in this area. IMHO, what needs to happen is for any store selling firearms, ammunition, fertilizer, black powder, cannon fuse, etc. to develop a policy and procedure for dealing with situations where they have concerns about an individual wishing to purchase said items, and then give their managers and clerks some very basic training in what types of questions to ask and red flags to look for. If a certain standard of comfort isn’t met, then notify authorities and let them do their jobs.

    It doesn’t have to be offensive or rude. Many people can’t tell the difference between Arabs, Indians, Sri Lankans, Pakistani, etc. Friendly conversation, expressing interest in someone’s background, and even explaining the store has a policy of asking people who buy X amount of ammo what they are going to use it for will get a lot of information without either offending the customer or tipping them off that they are under scrutiny. I always smile and engage in conversation with people. Consequently, I know the local Popeye’s is run by people from Egypt, the Subway by Palestinians (one of whom grew up in NY), and the UPS Store by people from Sri Lanca. The Egyptians are orthodox Muslims, but the other’s aren’t. It wasn’t difficult to find out, no one was offended, and we all smile and say hello to when we see each other. But if I ever got a bad feeling about anything, I would report it. On-line sales are bit more complicated, and spotting an abandoned/suspicious package/backpack is a completely different situation.

    Do I profile? Absolutely. I’ve spent time in Israel and the West Bank, and that is a critical technique. Do most people know I’m doing it, hopefully not. Showing concern isn’t wrong, but neither is a law abiding citizen buying guns and bulk ammo.

    1. It sounds like you are setting yourself up for a lawsuit. Policies such as these do not help anyone especially when the rules are not applied across the board. They sound good on paper, but will result in a certain group of people being targets who are not of the race of the employee. Showing concern is not wrong, but showing concern while focusing on one particular group is wrong. If I do not know a person at a store I do not feel comfortable talking about my background or even anything remotely personal. If one perceives a store policy to be discriminatory then it could mean bad publicity or even a lawsuit. I would say that following procedures that are required by law is sufficient.

      1. Jamal, given that you have something negative to say about pretty much everything everyone on here has said, you have lost all credibility., So, save your effort, it’s pretty obvious you are just on here to be a troll..

      2. No, Mikial I have nothing negative to say. I did question why people felt it was acceptable to be question because of ones race and for recent crimes committed by people who might look like her. Credibility was lost when people begin blaming her for not accepting being racially profiled. You did not want to address anything I post, but criticize it. Now who has any credibility.

      3. Jamal, nothing I said was questioning anyone. I presented a viable process based on success over many years of experience. You are simply looking for an argument and that is something i don’t intend to provide for you. This conversation is over, so go ahead and say whatever your little mind and bug ego dictate, but I will tell you now that I am not going to waste any more time on you.

      4. Mikial, I did not say you were questioning anyone. If you look at my post then you will see that I said “why people”, not you specifically. I am not looking for an argument, but I did state what I perceived as problematic policies you were speaking about. I was only inferring that the policies you spoke of could lead to accusations of discrimination. I am not here to pick a fight, but debate topics. Good Day/Night!

  13. Typical it’s-all-about-me victim ideology. Instead of being thankful that clerks and cops are vigilant, she’s insulted and turns it into her 5 minutes of I’m-a-victim fame. Hopefully, she’ll never make it onto a police department. Imagine the dissent she could wreak there with the, “It’s because I’m a minority” woe is me victim ideology

    1. Nice way of blaming the victim in this instance. You want her to be thankful she is a victim of racial profiling and prejudicial treatment. Go Figure! What’s next, you are going to blame a woman for being raped by a man. She should be thankful that any man should find her attractive. Your post is one of the most ridiculous posts. It has nothing to do with her wanting to be a cop, but everything to do with people ignorant stereotypes. You should examine your brain because something is wrong. It might be foxnews or down syndrome. Go Figure!

  14. See that, Trump has the Right Idea …. simply Lock the Door, the Border Door that is.

    Cures a multitude of Insulted and Offended problems and the obvious Security problems.

    1. There is no way to lock a border. Almost half of all the people in the country that are illegal come by way of visa’s and not crossing the border. Typical Trump supporter!

  15. The “police apologized”, which is ridiculous. That is like someone kicking you in the face and then apologizing right after. It makes little since to ring the alarm because someone is asking about ammo at a gun supply store. What’s next, someone being suspicious of someone asking about burgers at Mcdonalds. If you want to look for suspicious people then look at who have been committing the most mass shootings.

  16. So she went to the store 2 times in a week (or so) to inquire about bulk .223 ammo and neither time purchased any. After asking about the ammo the second time, she again did not purchase any and instead purchased an elevation mask. Now go ahead and look up the Bane looking elevation mask and tell me they were wrong to question her. I am betting that she was trying to evoke this type of response. It seems like greater and greater numbers of people these days want to be seen as a victim. As if that is their claim to fame now. The liberals tell us “You see something, say something.” But now it is a bad thing? How can you have it both ways?

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