The “Remington vs. NBC” issue is hitting all corners of the gun industry and gun enthusiast community. The most recent NBC report claims to have found a dangerous defect in a fire control group (typically defined as the mechanism of a gun containing things like the trigger, hammer and safety) used in several Remington firearms, known as the common fire control (CFC) unit. Critics of NBC’s work have pointed out that the report uses an animated representation of the alleged failure of the CFC, not providing an on-screen example of a CFC failing.

Enthusiasts like Robert Mann of the Empty Cases blog took it upon themselves to put the CFC to the test. In the video below, Mann has removed the CFC from his son’s shotgun and puts it through its paces.


Following this (admittedly anecdotal, though powerful) “backyard” style of testing, the evidence appears to be on Remington’s side. Outdoor Hub will keep you posted as more updates come through on this heated topic.

Press release issued by Remington April 12, 2012:

NBC continues to attack Remington and the firearms industry through sensational and factually inaccurate reporting.  On April 11, 2012, Brian Williams again demonstrated NBC’s anti-gun agenda with the claim that the Model 870, Model 1100 and other Remington firearms have a design flaw.  That claim is demonstrably false and Remington stands fully behind the safety and reliability of the most popular shotguns in the world.

It wasn’t enough for NBC to attack over 20 million Remington firearms; they also called the Second Amendment into question by suggesting that there is a need for increased government regulation of firearms.

Model 870 and 1100 owners know the truth – these shotguns are used extensively under the most demanding conditions.  Tens of billions of rounds have been fired through these firearms, which are valued for their performance and durability by millions of hunters, shooters, law enforcement and military personnel who have relied on Remington.

As the basis for its attacks, NBC continues to rely upon paid “experts” who have been repeatedly hired by plaintiff’s attorneys to testify against Remington and at least 16 other firearms manufacturers.  The facts show that the Model 870 and 1100 are two of the most reliable shotguns ever produced – only one lawsuit has been filed in the last seven years and no litigation is pending against the trigger mechanisms of these firearms.

Deceptively editing and ignoring readily available documents and video evidence to drive NBC’s agenda is an all too familiar tactic.  Remington stands by the reliability and safety of its firearms and will fully respond to NBC’s attempt to disparage these iconic American products.

Please visit to see more of Remington’s response.

NBC’s Report on the CFC

This is the majority of the report from April 11, 2012 by NBC’s Rock Center with Brian Williams.

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15 thoughts on “Independent “Backyard” Testing Appears to Support Remington’s Response to Attacks from NBC

  1. … If they ( NBC ) cannot show the defect in live testing rather than  in cartoon-style animation,
    there probably is no defect.

  2. Does anyone without an bias driven agenda even tune in to NBC for accurate honest news coverage? I know I don’t, nor do any of the fair minded honest educated adults I associate with. Aren’t they the same network that rigged some brand of truck to explode, then attempted to present it as a normal occurrence if said truck was involved in an accident? Personally I would trust the leader of(whomever that is this week)Al Qaeda more than “NBC news”, at least with Al Qaeda you know where you stand and their agenda.

  3. Notice how when NBC took over Versus Outdoor network there’s no gun on it
    They did away with all their shooting shows

  4. The kid that had the old Sportsman 58 which was an old design had it loaded with a shell in the back of his vehicle. This in itself is a very bad safety mistake in the first place. I have 7 Remington guns and because of these reports I checked them all for this possible defect. I could not beat them enough to get them to fire even with the safety off. So, at least with my Remingtons, I cannot find any issue with them but will still keep the barrel pointed in a safe direction at all times!

  5. I am 51 years old and been shooting since I was six. I have never seen a Remington fail due to any factory defect.  The only failures I have ever seen were caused by the doofuses who owned them, and do not know their own limitations with tools, or wannabe gunsmiths. Think of Tim (The Tool Man) Taylor. His screwups were funny. Not so funny when it is a gun mangled beyond safe use by idiots with a screw driver, a hammer, a pair of pliers and a rusty trusty old file.

  6. It’s against the law to lean any gun on any part of a motor vehicle whether a loaded gun or empty.Who is to say that the fallen gun in one of the complaints didn’t hook the trigger on some object like a twig, etc. as it fell.Although I never say never I have a difficult time blaming the gun in any of these complaints. Stupidity stands out as the biggest problem here. Jean Lavallee

    1. It’s not illegal every where but that is besides the point. Never point a gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot. Thats the golden rule.

  7. I own two 870’s and an 1100 and several other model Remington shotguns and rifles of various vintages. Once had a problem back in the late 70’s, early 80’s with my 870 trap grade at the Wisconsin State Trap Shoot that it would NOT fire under any circumstance,,, I spoke to the factory reps attending the shoot and they said bring it over,,, they disassembled and repaired it onsite at no charge, never a problem since and have fired thousands of rounds through that weapon

  8. Well, it can’t happen if you empty the shotgun before you lean it on something DUMBA$$.  I only shoot Remington shotguns 870 & 1100 ….. NEVER had an issue EVER!

  9. The moral of this story: don’t leave a loaded firearm unattended, or point it at anything you don’t want to destroy, or face the consequences.  Know what you are doing; act responsibly; be accountable for your actions.  Oh, and clean your gun.

    This NBC report claims 125 incidents with 125 out of 20,000,000 guns.  That’s a .00000625% failure rate. I feel for those effected and their loss, but there are many more consumer products that result in bodily harm or death with a much higher failure rate than this.  

    NBC and Belk/Butters have an agenda.  NBC of the liberal anti-constitution type, and Belk/Butters of the monetary type.  Belk and Butters are just mad that the firearm industry won’t accept their BBIS trigger group.
    And, on that note, I would like to recommend that NBC close up shop permanently.  According to this report, NBC infers Remington should be obliged to consider and implement 3rd party designs.  So I would like NBC to oblige my request.

    I own an 870.  Never had a problem.

  10. I’ve been around the internet hunting forums for many years.This is far from the first time I’ve heard of this issue with Remington.The 11-87, especially, is known for it’s “slam-fires” and safety flaws.Money is the issue with Rem., not the safety of it’s customers.

  11. its a bunch of BS but that said Remington cant get out of its own way with their marketing efforts. They should be out touting great products and marketing their brand not just spinning controversial angle stories with NBC. John 9469, great point.

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